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preview, a first look at what's on the
front pages as they arrive. It's time to
see what's making the headlines with
journalist and author Janelle Aldrid and
political commentator Kane Tower. So,
let's uh see what's on some of those
front pages for you now. Well, the Daily
Express leads with outrage over bonus
payouts at the UK border force as record
figures show 110,000 asylum claims were
made in just one year. While The
Observer features a full page picture
from today's asylum protests, The Sun's
front page features an exclusive on
Deputy Prime Minister Angela Raina,
who's bought a third home near Brighton
for more than £700,000.
The Daily Mail is also leading on the
same story, highlighting questions over
Raina's purchase amid her department's
crackdown on second homeowners.
The Telegraph warns of a 1970s style
debt crisis under Rachel Reeves with
fears Britain could face an IMF bailout.
And the Times leads with Chem Benox
speaking about uh the racism she's faced
as Tory leader, saying some claim she
only rose to the top because she's
black.
The Mirror leads with an exclusive
interview with East Enders star Cheryl
Ferguson, who reveals she had a stroke
and had to learn to walk again.
And the Sunday star has an interview
with I'm a celebrity star Dean McCulla
who says he's living in fear after
receiving death threats online.
We're joined now by journis and author
Janelle Aldrid and political commentator
ganeer. Welcome to you both. Uh let us
start with the Sunday Express front page
and their headline border fast outrage
at bonus payouts. And these are the sums
paid to top civil servants in their home
office. Um, you take us into the story
first.
>> I one, some of the salaries seem to be
eyepopping more than the prime minister
and so on and so forth. And at one
point, oh, he's a good chap because he
does ask the French every now and then.
This doesn't work, but he does at least
ask. I'm being given this these salaries
and all the rest seems to be over the
over the top. But what
>> this is Martin Hu at Labour's border
security commander. But what I don't
understand is what they're getting
bonuses for. If they're civil servant,
you you want a civil service grade. You
get that wages. What's the bonus? It's
not as if they're in the private sector.
They're not delivering. Clearly, they're
not delivering because the figures are
going in the wrong direction. Why are
they getting bonuses? In the civil
service, you take the salary, you do the
work because it is good thing to do for
the country, and then if you're really
good and it's successful, you get a gong
at the end of it. You don't get a bonus
as well as the gong. These people end up
with a KCMG or something this sort.
That's what they get. That is your bonus
recognition. NITHoods come left, right,
and center. Um, and yet they get a
financial bonus as well for what looks
like they're failing.
>> Well, some received a £15,000 bonus. We
don't know what the bonus for, as you
said, maybe DIIE quotas in in the in the
in the in the department. What is the
bonus for? Because it's clearly not for
cutting down on the number of silence
seekers,
>> Janelle. Well, I think it's easy to
pinpoint DEI as the reason why they got
their bonuses, but the thing is
>> it could be anything.
>> You know, I I was interested to find out
they got bonuses because I must confess
that's something that I don't really
genuinely think about with civil service
in terms of bonuses because it's not
like a forprofit business where you make
extra profit, so you get a bit of cream
off the top, which is what you would
expect. We are paying a certain amount
of tax, a certain amount of money. We're
told there's not a lot of money and
there's no magic money tree. So, it does
seem interesting. It seems that it's
come through as part of the appraisal
process. I think they would benefit as
we all would from a bit more information
about how those bonuses are assessed. As
taxpayers, of course, we want to see
that our money is well spent. And if
someone's done an amazing job and
they've saved the country loads of
money, then yes, okay, I can maybe think
about a bonus, but it's not something I
think about in terms of the civil.
>> If you go into the civil service, you
get the KCMG, you get the OB, you get
the nighthood for that.
>> We all need to live on.
>> It's not standard.
If you succeed, If you're good, if
you're good at your job, you don't get a
financial bonus. You get an a reward.
>> The pay rises, I'm not. So, the pay
rises in terms of in relation to their
salary is actually quite small. Um, you
know, in this country, the average wage
is £37,000 and and a half close to. So,
some of these people are receiving
between 170 175,000. So, a £5,000 bonus
is easy to kind of understand in
relation to that amount of pay. But I do
think that the bonus
>> except it's a bonus.
>> Well, everyone needs to get a pay rise
because everyone gets a bon
then get a bonus on top. The bonus on
top does seem without information um
interesting especially as their
particular roles are around asylum and
that is something that is not yet as
some people would say under control or
happening in the way that
>> but could individuals be doing a very
good job specifically within their area
although outwardly the department might
be failing
>> but are we suggesting that if if they
hadn't been so brilliant the situation
would be far far worse
>> I think we should take the lead from We
we don't know about individual
situations here. We don't know what
people are doing in their particular
roles.
>> And they're talking about Martin Hewitt,
border security commander, the boss, the
guy on the biggest salary.
>> If there's something we don't know about
where he's brilliant and succeeding,
maybe we should be told because on the
face of it, he's not. We're doubling the
numbers of people coming across the
channel. We're the asylum bill is going
through the roof. 7 billion so on perom.
If if this is if this is a measure of
his great success, I dread to think what
failure would look like.
>> Well, I think what you're both saying is
that more transparency would be helpful.
Let's move on to the observer um and the
Eping Hotel crisis, which is very much
in the news. And this piece here
suggesting that two customers in an
Eping cafe were on the verge of a fist
fight. Such as the strength of feeling.
Go. Uh yeah, I've read this piece and
it's a very different piece from most of
the pieces coming out of Eping and from
the people I know who've been at these
protests and uh have been involved in
these protests. I mean it does almost
every person witness feels like that
they've been picked for a BBC panel. Um
that almost universally I the worst sort
of hard right oh I'm not a racist but
they've got slitty eyes. That's one
quote in there. Um and the rest are
literally the sort of people you'd find
on BBC. I think the observer have
definitely gone looking to for evidence
to write the story they want to write
>> or have they just found people and got
their views
>> and yet as I say pretty much everybody
else who's been reporting left and right
has been reporting I think slightly
differently. This this looks like a BBC
production. U it has that feel. It's
it's a very it comes to me as a very
one-sided piece. We're looking for
people who think everything that's going
on down there is awful. Um we're looking
for racist. looking for this this sort
rather than just a a broad speech and
this fight does seem does feel very very
odd indeed. Um but of course there will
be people like that but I don't think
it's representative of the majority
>> at all.
>> I mean I take the view that this is a
story talking about kind of the story in
and amongst the story and the story is
the bricks and the mortar of the
protests that we see happening and and
the different things. This story is
about actually what does this do to
communities? And I'm actually quite
interested in this story as to hearing a
different side that isn't just someone
outside like waving a flag seeming
really angry and cross action. They're
talking to people who live there and say
what are these protests doing? How is it
making people and I don't want to use
the soft word feel because that that
does feel a bit soft but for want of a
better word you know they're talking
about communities being split and
families being divided because there are
people on both sides of this debate in
Eping and I think if you look and if we
if you talk about the BBC panel I mean I
I don't think it it reads like that but
to me it reads like we actually want to
hear from different voices here not just
the voices that we see on TV at the
protest we want to hear from other
people who have another point of view
about the town that they live which is
just as valid as the other view about
how other people
>> I wouldn't disagree that there are other
are other points of view I would say
though in many ways these protests are
bringing communities together
>> people people various people who don't
normally talk don't the the broader
community in Eping people are actually
coming together because they are equally
upset about a certain thing now they
might not have known each other they've
got a lot of people from that area from
Eping coming together and that that
actually brings people together.
>> Well, when I look at this kind of coming
together that I'm watching on the
screen, I must say I'm not sure that's
the kind of coming together that I want
to see in my local town. I don't want to
see scenes like this where I live. Most
people don't want to see scenes like
this where they live. So this what this
>> but the reason why is because the people
the people many of the people in Eping
have not been listened to for an awfully
long time and they've been ignored and
ignored and ignored and they have come
together to protest. That is that is a
build and what we what we see is quite
often and the particular v vision we're
seeing now on the on the on the screen
was when people from outside arrived on
both sides
>> well together with the other ones aren't
they and this is what we don't I'm
talking about the eping community that
has been there day after day after day
as opposed to the setpiece moments where
people are coming in both on the right
and on the left coming in basically for
a ruck the actual the people who are out
there just like in the Bratannia Hotel
in the aisle of
It was women coming together, most who
didn't know each other, but now and and
the pink ladies who were not violent,
the congress down the street, this sort
of stuff, which I don't think is a
protest. You've got a problem with that
sort of stuff where you need police
police forces. Yeah, I'm with you.
>> But it's it's it's not really been about
bringing people together. It's showing
the the divisions. We we've seen people
protesting in in Liverpool. We've seen
arrests. That's not a community a
cohesive community, is it? It does bring
people it well
the country is split to a certain
extent. There's no denying that there
are arguments and differences of
opinion. But what I've seen is in many
of these places people who are normally
hidden behind their front doors. I was
talking to somebody this morning who
won't let her 15year-old daughter out
and she's she hates herself for it but
she is frightened and they're planning
to leave London. Um, a lot of people are
hiding and are stuck in their homes and
coming out like this is actually
bringing people together. It's actually
bringing a community together. No,
community together against something.
Yes.
>> In a very strong way. Listen, if every
single asylum seeker left all the
hotels, we would still have crime in
this country. There would still be
violent crime. There would still be
sexual crime. There would still be every
kind of nefarious crime in the sun. So,
I guess so is what she's saying is that
okay, if all the asylum seekers left,
there were still loads of criminals in
the country. Now I'm going to let my
child out because they look like me. I
think this is a very very very thin
argument.
>> It's it is things have changed and
things things there is a a mood of
menace in certain in certain parts of
the town. Um that
has caused a lot of people a great deal
of concern. It is a it is far whilst
there's always been crime there's always
been problems there does seem to it has
been exacerbated recently. Um, now is it
that's possibly there's more
information. There's poor knowledge. Um,
when I was growing up, I'm sure there
was just as not maybe just as much, but
there was these things, but we didn't
notice.
>> But is all the crime coming from?
>> No, certainly not. Of course not. Okay.
>> But proportionally, there are question
marks over sexual uh attacks. There
really are. The data does suggest that
people from certain areas
>> I would really love to know where is
this data? Where where is this data?
Because we hear about data and we hear
about stories. We've heard about this
this wann but where's the rest of the
data? This menace that we talk about
this kind of language when we talk about
bringing people together it's very
obvious you know it's very easy to say
him over there that person because I can
visibly see that they are there's been
you know not from here not like us. No I
I I have listened but you know at the
end of the day there are other people in
Eping who do feel differently. there are
with the people in London, Bristol, and
where all these things are, which is why
there are two sides to this argument.
And again, it comes down to let's be
clear on the facts. Let's be clear on
the data, and let's not muddle up
anecdotal stories, which are terrible,
with real data, real facts, real case
studies, because that's actually what's
needed because what's happening now is
not bringing people together. It's
making our country a very dangerous
place, and no one safer because of it.
Um I just very quickly that last
>> well I think I think the the the
way that the government those chaps have
just been given bonuses have been
distributing people around the country
without informing locals is an issue and
it's an issue that is a perfectly
reasonable thing for people to protest
against u because it's the lack of we
were talking about transparency earlier
it's the transparency thing
>> there's there is definitely something to
be said for people being housed in areas
and the community not being consulted I
will agree with you on that one but what
I will disagree with one is that the way
to solve it is by people pitching up
outside where they live and waving flags
and basically carrying on in a
threatening manner to people who have
not moved themselves there. The
government's moved them there. Let's
talk to the government about the issue.
>> Janelle, you've had the last word. That
was the last word, although I was giving
it to you. Thank you both for the
moment. We're going to take a break.
Coming up, is a breast cancer drug that
could extend the lives of women being
withheld from the NHS? We'll be
discussing that story on the front of
the Times when we come back. Do stay
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preview. Still with me, journalist and
author Janelle Aldred and the political
commentator Gwane Tower. Let us have a
look at the male front page and this
story regarding the deputy prime
minister. Raina shells out £800,000 for
her third home, a third underlined. Uh
why is this a story, Janelle?
>> Um I must confess I'm not 100% sure
because the third home is underlined
because she doesn't really have three
homes. She has one home. She has a grace
and favor home as in her role as deputy
prime minister and she has bought a
second home. So they're calling this her
third home. I think hence the underline.
Um and so I'm actually not 100% sure why
we would begrudge someone buying a
second home should they have the means
to. I think what they're trying to point
to is that Labor turning the screws on
second home owners pricing locals out of
out of housing. They're saying that
there's more claims around her council
tax arrangements was a story about 18
months ago. Um, so that's why they're
thinking this is a story, but actually I
think this is a very thin attack on the
Labour party. Um, and I actually think
there's not loads of legs on this one.
>> Go. Do you I have to say this sort of
story fills me with tedium. Um, it it
it's she's a successful woman on a
reasonable salary and she's buying a
holiday home. Uh,
>> that's the British dream. Now,
>> why am I so upset? And it it seems to me
this is an exclusive in the mail. It's
also exclusive in the Sun
>> and it's obviously a thing that's been
dug up and discovered by the Tory
research team because it's in both
papers. always very early in the stories
being quoted and it's if that's the best
they've got. There's an awful lot of
stuff about this government you should
be having a go at. But a successful
woman buying a second home doesn't seem
to me the because she's going to have to
pay the taxes that her government's been
bringing in. She's going to have to pay
these things. In fact, it might be good
for her to actually feel that pain. But
but I just it's this is the same sort of
level as Labour having a go at Farage as
a supporter of Jimmy Savile. It's the
same sort of school school ground stuff.
It doesn't improve our politics. And you
know what? Why shouldn't a successful
woman buy a second home?
>> I suppose that the the news the the news
line or the angle that they're going on
is because her department is wantingly
to
>> which she will have to pay for herself
if she's bought a second home. She will
have to suffer these these pains and
maybe that's good for her to learn how
other people are hurting because of her
policies.
>> Maybe it's good. Now they're in
agreement.
>> We're in agreement.
>> I know. But it's it's a case of just
>> common sense prevails on this one. sort
of strikes rubbish that becomes our
political debate.
>> Right. Let's move to the times in this
story. A drug firm withholds breast
cancer medicine amid price row. A breast
cancer drug that could extend the lives
of hundreds of women is being withheld
from the NHS in an escalation of a
pricing row with the pharmaceutical
industry. Um this is quite alarming
actually as a as a story. Janelle, do
you not think?
>> I do think so. And I think it comes
again down to how is the NHS costed? Who
gets what medicines? I mean, we haven't
heard the term postcode lottery for a
long time when it comes to the NHS, but
that is something to kind of think
about. But in this case, we know that
West Streeting um walked away from talks
with the industry about the rate
companies pay in medicine's clawback
tax. So, we know that there's some a bit
of a storm coming about the urgency
around medicines, how they're paid for.
Trump has also waded in as he is seems
to be in everything these days um
because he's threatening to lower prices
for drugs in the US which is causing
pharmaceutical companies to then raise
prices of the places where he feels they
have more favorable or the people have
more favorable rates than Americans. Um
but the Gilead's general manager for the
UK because it is a Gilead drug says the
UK has the ingredients to be a world
leader but it's impossible not to see a
decline taking place right in front of
our eyes. He calls the action
unprecedented decision. Um because that
basically there is not an acceptable and
appropriate profit. And I think when it
comes to health, I think in this country
with the way we think about healthcare,
the terms appropriate profit and a drug
that could save lives. And with 500
women would have been eligible for the
trial and that's 500 families, 500
communities. It's more than just those
500 women. So yes, it is concerning to
think there's a drug that we can't get
because we can't make a deal on the
appropriate amount of profit on the
drug.
>> Gen people reading this story, the first
thing will be that, you know, lives will
not be saved because of profit, because
of money.
>> Well, yeah. I mean, yes, of course. But
at the same time, who's going to create
the next drug if they don't have the
profits to be able to reinvest, if it's
not worth their while to do so? We
there's
the NHS would be far far better if we
stopped inventing stuff because when we
invent stuff is expensive. It just is.
500 women each at £45,000 for the five
month process. This becomes highly
expensive for the NHS. The NHS is under
a great deal of pressure anyhow. So this
business about undervaluing, overpaying,
it becomes very moot. Um and I but I
agree with you. What do we mean by
appropriate profit? M
>> what do we mean by that? Is it is it
that is that making enough profit to
reinvest and still pay something to a
shareholders or is it a massive great
bonus for the shareholders? This we
can't tell from this article. I'm a bit
concerned about those two words question
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